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Have you guys seen these threads about the montiored burms in the Everglades being dead:

[url] http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=66#1786234[/url]

[url] http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1786220,1786220[/url]

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1786220,1786234

http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=13

Obviously I can't verify this is fact, but given the track record of the DOI/USGS/USFWS/NPS.... It's time we all call for an ethics investigation and/or contact the Dept. of Justice, this sh** has to stop.


From the original post:

"All Florida Burmese Pythons that were tagged for the invasive python study have been found dead. The USFWS has been holding off on releasing this information to the public. That is the information I have from close inside sources. I am not stating this as absolute fact, but my sources are usually very reliable.

It is my belief that the government scientists and officials may be withholding this information deliberately, until USFWS can get the 9 species of snakes declared injurious under the Lacey Act and therefore banned without the representation and input of the citizens of the USA. If this information came out now, the boas and pythons could not be declared injurious under the Lacey Act.

I hereby call upon US Federal Government Scientists Gordon Rodda, Frank Mazzotti, and Skip Snow to release this information regarding the number of deaths of all tagged snakes immediately.

I also hereby call on the Secretary of the Department of the Interior Ken Salazar and USFWS Director Sam Hamilton to release this information regarding the number of deaths of all tagged snakes immediately and halt any Lacey Act actions based upon any false or misleading evidence."

Two USARK directors responded in this thread:

http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1786220,1786220

Opinions? Is it just me, or does anyone else find it at least strange that these two directors don't seem to be up in arms about this? If the USGS/USFWS is covering up the death of any snakes, they (the USGS/USFWS/NPS) are not going to issue an official statement that they are covering up evidence!

Well it is USARK and unfortunately I believe that organization works hand in hand with the USFWS on these regulations. Most likely they knew ahead of time that they were going to withold the information. I'll do some digging on this see what else I can find.

(02-08-2010 09:52 AM)Ucowboy Wrote: [ -> ]Well it is USARK and unfortunately I believe that organization works hand in hand with the USFWS on these regulations. Most likely they knew ahead of time that they were going to withold the information. I'll do some digging on this see what else I can find.

Thanks John. Also, since it might be relevant, do you know if the DOI accepted USARK's offer of $10K to work together on regulations?

Thanks,
Ed

if they are in fact dead information needs to be released immediately

(02-08-2010 10:27 AM)natsamjosh Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks John. Also, since it might be relevant, do you know if the DOI accepted USARK's offer of $10K to work together on regulations?

Thanks,
Ed

If this is the case, charges should be brought on ALL parties involved It is illegal for anybody to sway or influence government agencies monetarily or even by offering influence. Our government agencies are supposed to operate freely and independently solidly grounded in facts.

(02-08-2010 03:41 PM)DR_Sparktrician Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-08-2010 10:27 AM)natsamjosh Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks John. Also, since it might be relevant, do you know if the DOI accepted USARK's offer of $10K to work together on regulations?

Thanks,
Ed

If this is the case, charges should be brought on ALL parties involved It is illegal for anybody to sway or influence government agencies monetarily or even by offering influence. Our government agencies are supposed to operate freely and independently solidly grounded in facts.

I agree. I'd ask USARK to explain what they mean by the following, but we all know how productive that would be. From USARK's blog page
http://usark.org/blog/?cat=45:

"USARK has offered $10,000 to United States Fish & Wildlife Service to establish the basis of a program to get pythons out of Florida and into qualified hands that can securely and humanely house them for the rest of their natural lives."

Giving money to a gov't entity does seem bizarre, if not unethical/illegal,
I agree 100%. But what I'm really curious about is if USARK members' money went directly to the USFWS, one of the gov't entities that is leading the charge to get our pets banned! If so, members (and non-members) need to know about this. Even if the USFWS didn't/couldn't accept the money, the offer was made.

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"USARK has offered $10,000 to United States Fish & Wildlife Service to establish the basis of a program to get pythons out of Florida and into qualified hands that can securely and humanely house them for the rest of their natural lives."

Giving money to a gov't entity does seem bizarre, if not unethical/illegal,
I agree 100%. But what I'm really curious about is if USARK members' money went directly to the USFWS, one of the gov't entities that is leading the charge to get our pets banned! If so, members (and non-members) need to know about this. Even if the USFWS didn't/couldn't accept the money, the offer was made.


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If that is the case than our worst enemy may have been closer than we ever thought.....